Post by PI9090 on Dec 28, 2022 2:08:50 GMT
(Please let me know if I've missed anything and I'll double check it).
What did we learn about the enemy?
1.Maybe connected to the Timelord's long buried fear that another enemy may emerge.
2.Could have a far more devestating impact on history then the Yssgaroth.
3.Partly due to the Timelord's lack of understanding.
4.Not a species or faction but an all consuming process.
5.It's, "how" and, "why" are somehow explained in the Book.
6.The enemy may have a quick and convenient title.
7.Their first and possibly second waves were as unprepared as the Timelords's.
8.The Frontier in Time is not due to enemy action.
9.They may find the Celestis disgusting like everyone else.
10.Is not as close to actual immortality as the Celestis.
11. Recieved and use Celestis conceptual being creating and marking technology.
12.They have an alliance with former posthuman War Godess Immaculata Formosii.
13.The enemy is: civilised, cultured, and intelligent enough to have agenda beyond destruction.
14.They consider the Caldera to be a prime target, (the destruction of which would wipe out everything linear in existence).
15.They would win by default if the Timelords altered the Protocols erasing their own existence.
16.The Timelords started to understand it's nature 400 years before the war.
17.The enemy's nature and identity might be in .T.B.o.t.W. but requires figuring out.
18.May share characteristics with the Mal'akh, (ie: Somehow connected to their opposition's collective subconscious,variable forms, and mysterious leadership). Could be to the Timelords what the Mal'akh is to the Grand Families?
19.Used two part titles.
20.Understood the need for diversity, (cultural and military) as they might have experience fighting mass produced forces before. Probably the reps rather then the leadership.
21.It's leadership's identity is kept secret to keep the Timelord's scared and thus motivated.
22.Invented Xenoprediction to increase the effectiveness of their interactive propaganda, (eg: The, "You" Diversions).
23.Used conceptual entities as interactive propaganda weapons to exploit time conflict created: doubt, fears, and confusion.
24.Coincidence can be mistaken for enemy action, failing to separate them is paranioa, separating them too widely is underestimating the enemy.
25.Created the artificial form of time, "Zero Time" to avoid Gravity Spider Weapons and maybe intentionally make the War more complicated for the Timelords to understand generating more fear and confusion. The Timelords specifically provoked them into creating it to make the Gravity Spider weapons effective.
26.Many of their timetravel methods shared an inherent weakness exploitable by Gravity Spiders.
27.Like the Timelords it is willing to ignore the fallout they generate until it generates something practical and spectacular.
28.Destroyed all but 73 Casts in their failed attack on Gallifrey Prime/1.
29.They use timeship eater weapons.
30.It took at least 2 waves of suicide attacks for them to destroy the remaining disabled Babels.
31.It was not motivated to physical or temporal survival/preservation.
32.Supposedly able to engineer Violent Unknown Events.
33.The Timelord got their first inkling as to their idenity in the Master's Closed Session speech.
34. Recieved no diplomatic overtures due to the President's interference.
35.Their Dronid proxy gange was, "The Incorporate".
36.They knew the Dronid proxy war would lead to full scale spiral politic wide military conflict.
37.Has no real post battle presence on Dronid.
38.House Dvora best understands it's reasoning.
39.Represented by a black block.
40.The Timelords gave it an one word name but rarely use it.
41.Known to retro erase crucial information about it's methods.
42.It's a process not a single species or a specific political faction.
43.It has a founder/leader but focusing on them is pointless.
44.The why is it matters more then the what.
45.It has knowledge of human history and pop culture.
46.Capable of: a.Temporaly transporting a severed head even with piyron and anti piyron traces) b.Keeping a severed head alive with a honey like substance throughout the entire life of the universe.
47.The Timelords consider the enemy's capabilities to be ludicrous/"an affront to every scientific datum in our repertoire".
48.The Nine Gallifrey's project was only initialised after the enemy's nature became clear.
49.The enemy comes from beyond the noosphere not because it comes another universe, (it doesn't) but because they cannot understand it's operational principles.
50.It tries not to defy the laws of physics.
51.Would win by default if the protocols were removed from Gallifrey(s).
52.Has not filled in their, "back time events" of the Battle of the Anvil Stars.
53.Has a fleet stuck in a perpetual fugue attempt to breach Utterlost's realtime.
54.Fought a more conventional space battle at Kaiwar, "The Roar".
55.It made the Master a patriot.
56.Circa 1650, (soon after the Tokugawa isolsation) the enemy and or it's reps observed The Gauntlet from Ainu territory.
57.Maybe less creative then Posthumanity.
58.Assisted by some of the timetraveling posthumans both out of belief and to enable timetravel technology theft.
59.Used reps for at least Praxis interrogations.
60.Studied Timelord weaknesses long before the War started.
61.May use charged casual nexus chunks in the form of black fireballs as weapons.
62.May use noosphere weapons to corrupt beings into mindless crazed killers.
63.May know that black suns/spheres are a recurring Timelord enemy visual motif.
64.The enemy could implement the 8th Doctor's imagined attack, (Riveria manuscript).
65.The enemy might see the Doctor as just another Timelord.
66.The enemy might like to observe and join in with Timelord interrogations by proxy.
67.Didn't start the war to entertain itself.
68.Could not be properly understood by the Timelords without their new self awareness.
69.May be more capable in utilising higher chaotic limiter settings.
70.Their forces are hard for the Timelords and their allies to pin down.
71.Their reps might need interiabar charts as much as the Timelords.
72.Provided with conceptual entity creation technology/specially design military concepts by some of the Celestis.
73.Their reps are: bled, analysed, have biomass removed, but rarely slaughtered by the Faction.
74.It's life capacities are polymorphously variable.
75.Maybe allied with the City of the Saved's, "The Sons of Tepes" though this might be a lie on their part.
76.Used a honey like substance to preserve the ex President's head and perhaps keep it alive.
77.Entrusted the ex President's head to the Order of the Dragon for safe keeping until the end of time when they would return it to Gallifrey after The Faraway Declaration.
78.Established lines of communication through the Labyrinth.
79.Reps trapped in the Labyrinth happily formed temporary truces with Timelord agents as their fear of it trumped their hatred.
80.It fought with virulent animosity during the early war.
81.Destroys Labyrinth entrances as soon as they are found.
82.Recruited the assassin automation, "The Knight Immortal" after he was expelled from the Remonstration Bureau, (thought destroyed during the Lethean Campaign to everyone's relief).
83.Agreed to the Voodoo Charter, (an acknowledgement that War with the Remonstration Bureau is unlikely).
84.Is content to ignore small time travel technology abuses.
85.Didn't want peace.
86.During/after the Tokugawa isolation the Hokkaido Ainu hosted a powerful enemy force, (whether this was the enemy leadership itself and or it's, "reps" it's not known or agreed) for a short time passively observing the Timelord's Gauntlet facility.
87.Was able to manifest during the Hollywood Bowl shooting due to the aesthetic and coherency being broken.
88.Appears as an absence in recordings with a deafeningly loud but not angry voice, (sensory and film).
89.One visual form both Cwej and Brookhaven found appalling to look at.
90.It's motivation may involve a stolen future.
91.Tries to sound impressive and edgey.
92.Has links to the order/Cult of the White Peacock. May have absorbed/ficitonalised them?
93.Can directly consume or kill someone. But only through contact?
94.May want to revive something or someone dead/may consider themselves dead?
95.May have erased the Through The Eye of Eternity episode, "Miss Hiroshima".
96.Maybe have some association with the colour brown?
97.They can detect all spacetime incursion in tactically important sites.
98.Humans in the City of the Saved think it comes from Earth/they are it, (seems like jingoistic wishful thinking on their part).
What did we learn about the enemy?
1.Maybe connected to the Timelord's long buried fear that another enemy may emerge.
2.Could have a far more devestating impact on history then the Yssgaroth.
3.Partly due to the Timelord's lack of understanding.
4.Not a species or faction but an all consuming process.
5.It's, "how" and, "why" are somehow explained in the Book.
6.The enemy may have a quick and convenient title.
7.Their first and possibly second waves were as unprepared as the Timelords's.
8.The Frontier in Time is not due to enemy action.
9.They may find the Celestis disgusting like everyone else.
10.Is not as close to actual immortality as the Celestis.
11. Recieved and use Celestis conceptual being creating and marking technology.
12.They have an alliance with former posthuman War Godess Immaculata Formosii.
13.The enemy is: civilised, cultured, and intelligent enough to have agenda beyond destruction.
14.They consider the Caldera to be a prime target, (the destruction of which would wipe out everything linear in existence).
15.They would win by default if the Timelords altered the Protocols erasing their own existence.
16.The Timelords started to understand it's nature 400 years before the war.
17.The enemy's nature and identity might be in .T.B.o.t.W. but requires figuring out.
18.May share characteristics with the Mal'akh, (ie: Somehow connected to their opposition's collective subconscious,variable forms, and mysterious leadership). Could be to the Timelords what the Mal'akh is to the Grand Families?
19.Used two part titles.
20.Understood the need for diversity, (cultural and military) as they might have experience fighting mass produced forces before. Probably the reps rather then the leadership.
21.It's leadership's identity is kept secret to keep the Timelord's scared and thus motivated.
22.Invented Xenoprediction to increase the effectiveness of their interactive propaganda, (eg: The, "You" Diversions).
23.Used conceptual entities as interactive propaganda weapons to exploit time conflict created: doubt, fears, and confusion.
24.Coincidence can be mistaken for enemy action, failing to separate them is paranioa, separating them too widely is underestimating the enemy.
25.Created the artificial form of time, "Zero Time" to avoid Gravity Spider Weapons and maybe intentionally make the War more complicated for the Timelords to understand generating more fear and confusion. The Timelords specifically provoked them into creating it to make the Gravity Spider weapons effective.
26.Many of their timetravel methods shared an inherent weakness exploitable by Gravity Spiders.
27.Like the Timelords it is willing to ignore the fallout they generate until it generates something practical and spectacular.
28.Destroyed all but 73 Casts in their failed attack on Gallifrey Prime/1.
29.They use timeship eater weapons.
30.It took at least 2 waves of suicide attacks for them to destroy the remaining disabled Babels.
31.It was not motivated to physical or temporal survival/preservation.
32.Supposedly able to engineer Violent Unknown Events.
33.The Timelord got their first inkling as to their idenity in the Master's Closed Session speech.
34. Recieved no diplomatic overtures due to the President's interference.
35.Their Dronid proxy gange was, "The Incorporate".
36.They knew the Dronid proxy war would lead to full scale spiral politic wide military conflict.
37.Has no real post battle presence on Dronid.
38.House Dvora best understands it's reasoning.
39.Represented by a black block.
40.The Timelords gave it an one word name but rarely use it.
41.Known to retro erase crucial information about it's methods.
42.It's a process not a single species or a specific political faction.
43.It has a founder/leader but focusing on them is pointless.
44.The why is it matters more then the what.
45.It has knowledge of human history and pop culture.
46.Capable of: a.Temporaly transporting a severed head even with piyron and anti piyron traces) b.Keeping a severed head alive with a honey like substance throughout the entire life of the universe.
47.The Timelords consider the enemy's capabilities to be ludicrous/"an affront to every scientific datum in our repertoire".
48.The Nine Gallifrey's project was only initialised after the enemy's nature became clear.
49.The enemy comes from beyond the noosphere not because it comes another universe, (it doesn't) but because they cannot understand it's operational principles.
50.It tries not to defy the laws of physics.
51.Would win by default if the protocols were removed from Gallifrey(s).
52.Has not filled in their, "back time events" of the Battle of the Anvil Stars.
53.Has a fleet stuck in a perpetual fugue attempt to breach Utterlost's realtime.
54.Fought a more conventional space battle at Kaiwar, "The Roar".
55.It made the Master a patriot.
56.Circa 1650, (soon after the Tokugawa isolsation) the enemy and or it's reps observed The Gauntlet from Ainu territory.
57.Maybe less creative then Posthumanity.
58.Assisted by some of the timetraveling posthumans both out of belief and to enable timetravel technology theft.
59.Used reps for at least Praxis interrogations.
60.Studied Timelord weaknesses long before the War started.
61.May use charged casual nexus chunks in the form of black fireballs as weapons.
62.May use noosphere weapons to corrupt beings into mindless crazed killers.
63.May know that black suns/spheres are a recurring Timelord enemy visual motif.
64.The enemy could implement the 8th Doctor's imagined attack, (Riveria manuscript).
65.The enemy might see the Doctor as just another Timelord.
66.The enemy might like to observe and join in with Timelord interrogations by proxy.
67.Didn't start the war to entertain itself.
68.Could not be properly understood by the Timelords without their new self awareness.
69.May be more capable in utilising higher chaotic limiter settings.
70.Their forces are hard for the Timelords and their allies to pin down.
71.Their reps might need interiabar charts as much as the Timelords.
72.Provided with conceptual entity creation technology/specially design military concepts by some of the Celestis.
73.Their reps are: bled, analysed, have biomass removed, but rarely slaughtered by the Faction.
74.It's life capacities are polymorphously variable.
75.Maybe allied with the City of the Saved's, "The Sons of Tepes" though this might be a lie on their part.
76.Used a honey like substance to preserve the ex President's head and perhaps keep it alive.
77.Entrusted the ex President's head to the Order of the Dragon for safe keeping until the end of time when they would return it to Gallifrey after The Faraway Declaration.
78.Established lines of communication through the Labyrinth.
79.Reps trapped in the Labyrinth happily formed temporary truces with Timelord agents as their fear of it trumped their hatred.
80.It fought with virulent animosity during the early war.
81.Destroys Labyrinth entrances as soon as they are found.
82.Recruited the assassin automation, "The Knight Immortal" after he was expelled from the Remonstration Bureau, (thought destroyed during the Lethean Campaign to everyone's relief).
83.Agreed to the Voodoo Charter, (an acknowledgement that War with the Remonstration Bureau is unlikely).
84.Is content to ignore small time travel technology abuses.
85.Didn't want peace.
86.During/after the Tokugawa isolation the Hokkaido Ainu hosted a powerful enemy force, (whether this was the enemy leadership itself and or it's, "reps" it's not known or agreed) for a short time passively observing the Timelord's Gauntlet facility.
87.Was able to manifest during the Hollywood Bowl shooting due to the aesthetic and coherency being broken.
88.Appears as an absence in recordings with a deafeningly loud but not angry voice, (sensory and film).
89.One visual form both Cwej and Brookhaven found appalling to look at.
90.It's motivation may involve a stolen future.
91.Tries to sound impressive and edgey.
92.Has links to the order/Cult of the White Peacock. May have absorbed/ficitonalised them?
93.Can directly consume or kill someone. But only through contact?
94.May want to revive something or someone dead/may consider themselves dead?
95.May have erased the Through The Eye of Eternity episode, "Miss Hiroshima".
96.Maybe have some association with the colour brown?
97.They can detect all spacetime incursion in tactically important sites.
98.Humans in the City of the Saved think it comes from Earth/they are it, (seems like jingoistic wishful thinking on their part).
