Anastasia
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Post by Anastasia on Nov 11, 2022 14:20:54 GMT
The Enemy a force/race/process, whatever they may be is unknown. It has been stated in several sources that the leaders of the Great House know the identity of the Enemy, for this discussion this is irrelevant because the Lower ranks do not. So the Lower Ranks of House do not know who or what the enemy are/is, so the question I ask is it the same for the rank and file of the Enemy (should they have one) do the everyday reps, or operatives or lower ranking members know who they are fighting?
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Post by garyshots on Nov 11, 2022 16:02:00 GMT
Some of the agents wear parodies of the Great Houses' ceremonial robes, so they must have some idea what they look like.
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Anastasia
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Post by Anastasia on Nov 11, 2022 16:05:59 GMT
Some of the agents wear parodies of the Great Houses' ceremonial robes, so they must have some idea what they look like. Prehapes they are higher ups? Or perhaps it Is simple coincidence? Or they are not the Enemy? Or perhaps they where what they wore before the war and have forgotten where it came from? I would like to add I am simply playing Devils Advocate in an attempt to dissect the fact and discover the underlying truth of the matter. |
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Post by garyshots on Nov 11, 2022 16:20:57 GMT
Some of the agents wear parodies of the Great Houses' ceremonial robes, so they must have some idea what they look like. Prehapes they are higher ups? Or perhaps it Is simple coincidence? Or they are not the Enemy? Or perhaps they where what they wore before the war and have forgotten where it came from? I would like to add I am simply playing Devils Advocate in an attempt to dissect the fact and discover the underlying truth of the matter. No, it's interesting, I'm just playing along.
The robes aren't necessarily the most important part of the Great Houses' identity, although they do tell you something about their lack of self-awareness.
Would the Enemy see them as "ancient, dusty senators, so frightened of change and chaos," or, well, Time Nazis?
(Is the Doctor like Rommel in the Time Nazis scenario? Not necessarily the real historical Rommel, but the "Rommel myth"?)
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Post by bumbles on Nov 13, 2022 9:01:53 GMT
To “the enemy” the Great Houses are “the enemy”, the Houses are as unimaginable to them as they are to the Houses.
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Post by PI9090 on Nov 28, 2022 19:07:18 GMT
To “the enemy” the Great Houses are “the enemy”, the Houses are as unimaginable to them as they are to the Houses. The Timelords amn the enemy's leadership are certainly beyond each other's noospheres. Anything more then that is pure speculation given the lack of information specifically the conflict instigating enemy leadership's identity and how the .S.W.I.H. ended. We know that the enemy victory of all Gallifreys and their Eyes of Harmony being destroyed, (and or the possible use if the 2nd Second) would result in the removal of rational linear history so it's probably safe to assume that the reps don't know that much as they wouldn't knowingly fight to erase themselves. So maybe a combination of a, "retake what they have taken from you" lie with the naturally developed anti Timelord rule sentiment? (While they fit ideologically I doubt the Gallifrey audios's Dalek instigated and supported, "Free Time" movement is involved, it seems separate and very Gallifrey 3 centric, maybe in the post war universe it's roster includes some former low level reps?). The enemy leadership's complete disregard for the reps beyond necessary support is interesting in it's own right. To them it wouldn't matter who destroyed the Gallifreys/Eyes of Harmony as no post anchoring universe species/pollitical faction could ever threaten them? That's not to say they've secretly orchestrated all of the Timelord's conflicts but is worth baring in mind. |
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Post by Cousin Ettolrahc (logged out) on Feb 9, 2023 11:10:06 GMT
To “the enemy” the Great Houses are “the enemy”, the Houses are as unimaginable to them as they are to the Houses. The Timelords amn the enemy's leadership are certainly beyond each other's noospheres. Anything more then that is pure speculation given the lack of information specifically the conflict instigating enemy leadership's identity and how the .S.W.I.H. ended. We know that the enemy victory of all Gallifreys and their Eyes of Harmony being destroyed, (and or the possible use if the 2nd Second) would result in the removal of rational linear history so it's probably safe to assume that the reps don't know that much as they wouldn't knowingly fight to erase themselves. So maybe a combination of a, "retake what they have taken from you" lie with the naturally developed anti Timelord rule sentiment? (While they fit ideologically I doubt the Gallifrey audios's Dalek instigated and supported, "Free Time" movement is involved, it seems separate and very Gallifrey 3 centric, maybe in the post war universe it's roster includes some former low level reps?). The enemy leadership's complete disregard for the reps beyond necessary support is interesting in it's own right. To them it wouldn't matter who destroyed the Gallifreys/Eyes of Harmony as no post anchoring universe species/pollitical faction could ever threaten them? That's not to say they've secretly orchestrated all of the Timelord's conflicts but is worth baring in mind. i'm sorry, but I very strongly disagree that the an Enemy Victory would eradicate all reps. You describe the event as an "eradication of rational linear history", but one must remember that "rational" here is purely by the Sun Builder's definition - perhaps in a post-rational universe would function just fine, and allow all forms of life (including the current version), instead of only House-verified species. |
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