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Post by donald on Aug 27, 2022 5:48:06 GMT
So, I have seen a few references to an interview with Lawrence being posted on tumblr via someone called the furthest rat, but I cannot find it. I'm not a tumble expert, but it seems it's been vanished. Does anyone have it?
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Post by doctornolonger on Aug 27, 2022 13:05:18 GMT
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donald
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Post by donald on Aug 27, 2022 14:58:13 GMT
Thank you so much! That's exactly what I was looking for. Makes me wonder what the too confrontational questions were. Also makes me miss new Lawrence Miles work...
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Post by tichepotato on Aug 28, 2022 0:49:30 GMT
This has made me realise that, as is typical, I've spent a good few years reading his works and various interviews from Lawrence Miles without ever hearing his voice. The only exception to that rule that I can think of was Sir Terry Pratchett. There are still innumerable authors whose voices I've never heard, whose faces I've never seen, but whose words I have read. Maybe that's how it's supposed to be.
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Post by mergist on May 28, 2023 0:57:50 GMT
For posterity, there were three missing questions. One was essentially 'How do you know that you don't have mean world syndrome?' - which he deleted without replying to, and which I regret asking.
The others were responses to the Reality Check interview, specifically the parts where he discusses his sense that we lack a vision of the future and where he gives a reason for not writing a specific thing that various books have inspired massively awful events and that he's so allergic to amassing social capital because he '[doesn't] want to be a cult leader even by accident'. To which my paragraph-length questions were, roughly, 'What about these dozen areas in which people are actively trying to make the world better?' and 'Arguably I wouldn't be nearly so interested in you if your writing hadn't been hidden away, and if it's influencing someone on another continent enough to bother you like this then you seem doomed to develop implausible cultists even in your silence, so why not make things anyway?'
His responses, again roughly, being 'I don't think that we have a collective idea of what the future looks like, so our progress may well lead us off of a cliff,' and 'I don't remember what I said that you're responding to and I have no idea what I deleted that was so important to you,' followed by a repetition of his explanation that he sees his online presence as a garden and deleting things is more a custodial/curatorial act for him than anything.
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Post by Najawin on Jun 17, 2023 4:34:04 GMT
Oh, hey Mergist, I'm the one who asked about Carnap / talked about ATP. I'm primarily on the FP/DW wiki, not here.
It's an oft repeated truism that science fiction can't predict the future, and that it doesn't do so. And certainly on long scales I think that's true. But we're maybe showing some similarities to some of the early iterations of cyberpunk. (Specifically Stephenson. Snow Crash and Diamond Age.) Is this because the authors were prescient or because SV CEOs decided that they wanted to live in a tech dystopia? Who can say.
Maybe it depends on the timescales involved in "the future" and who exactly is doing the work. But I'm not a Hegelian, for all my joking about Fukuyama. I don't think that there's a telos to history, so we very well could be led off a cliff even if we had a unified idea of what the future looked like.
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Post by mergist on Jun 28, 2023 2:20:16 GMT
Oh, hey Mergist, I'm the one who asked about Carnap / talked about ATP. I'm primarily on the FP/DW wiki, not here. It's an oft repeated truism that science fiction can't predict the future, and that it doesn't do so. And certainly on long scales I think that's true. But we're maybe showing some similarities to some of the early iterations of cyberpunk. (Specifically Stephenson. Snow Crash and Diamond Age.) Is this because the authors were prescient or because SV CEOs decided that they wanted to live in a tech dystopia? Who can say. Maybe it depends on the timescales involved in "the future" and who exactly is doing the work. But I'm not a Hegelian, for all my joking about Fukuyama. I don't think that there's a telos to history, so we very well could be led off a cliff even if we had a unified idea of what the future looked like. Hey! Nice to see you here, we should talk more. I agree that a unified view of the future isn't sufficient, given there are many that are essentially mirages or dead ends. I think what LM's talking about, though, is that historically culture itself - at least, good and worthwhile culture - has been marked by a particular orientation towards the future. I take Christmas on a Rational Planet as very much about the deconstruction of a simple teleological account of history, the point in the history of ideas where people freed themselves from the slave-ship of history and attempted to seize the helm and steer somewhere else. Elsewhere he remarks upon the fact that people in the 1960s simply found thinking of the future to be a worthwhile and important endeavor - something he echoes in the Reality Check interview when he speaks both about his own childhood and historical England as being periods that were awful but that people genuinely believed would improve. I think the best summary of this strain of his thought (if I'm not just conflating a lot of things) is when he argues that everything meaningful comes out of a sense that "in some small, knock-on way" it tries to make a better world possible. I think that's one of the reasons he was so fond of the City of the Saved and let it into his setting, even though it's far more unambiguously cozy, safe and utopian than anything else. Even in the universe where we're mostly dystopian victims of the War's jetsam and spend the lifetime of the sun doing nothing of importance, we still have something like a happy ending.
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Post by walkstheages on Jul 9, 2023 15:55:44 GMT
remembered this place exists and dropped by to browse!
Wanted to mention I just saved that Tumblr link to the wayback machine, and I am apparently the first person ever to do so
So, if you find any kind of interviews or things like this, make sure you save them to the Wayback Machine on Archive.org, and also double check to make sure it loads in properly, some things like Reddit threads, I believe, don't always load in. In cases like that, you can scroll to the bottom of the page to make sure it's all loaded in, then select the menu that should be in the top right corner of your internet browser, select "print..." and then "Save as PDF" to save the entire webpage as a PDF backup that can be posted manually on the web archive as needed
I just read the interview quick and saw this:
= The cache hosting the Protocols scripts disintegrated this year, and my site’s one of the only two places with public copies left. Would you like them back?
No, but please do hold onto them just in case.
Also, if anyone doesn't know how to add things to the wayback machine, all you gotta do is paste the URL you want to save into here
lol sorry for the spam but I recently became slightly obsessed with media and internet preservation
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